California Department of Resources Recycling and Recovery (CalRecycle) 

Enforcement Advisory Council Meeting

Minutes: July 14, 2009

CalEPA Building
1001 I Street, Training Rooms 2 East West
Sacramento, California
9:30 a.m.-3:30 p.m.

Meeting called to order 9:40 a.m.

I. Introductions

Bill Prinz, Southern Cities Round Table
Leonard Grossberg, South Western Round Table
David Altman, North Central Round Table
Bob Holmes, CIWMB
Rachel Morton, CIWMB
Matt Fore, South Central Round Table
Donna Heran, California Conference of Directors of Environmental Health (CCDEH)
George Nakamura, California Conference of Local Health Officers (CCLHO)
Ernie Genter, LPHSS Rep.
Sharon Anderson, CIWMB
Mark DeBie, CIWMB
Greg Pirie, Bay Area Round Table
Howard Levenson, CIWMB
Rosalie Mulé, CIWMB, Board Member
Sue Markie, CIWMB
Bobbie Garcia, CIWMB
Joe Mello, SWRCB
Scott Harvey, CIWMB
John Cupps, Consultant
Kyle Bachoff, CAL/EPA

Next meeting scheduled for Tuesday, September 13, 2009 in Sacramento, 9:30 a.m.-3: 30 p.m.

Dennis Ferrier in attendance by telephone.

Minutes by Leonard Grossberg

The agenda items below were not necessarily discussed in the order presented here.

II. Agenda Review

Late Additions: Radiation Training in South Central Region (Matt Fore) added to EAC Discussion Items.

III. Approval of Previous Minutes

Corrections to the May 11, 2005 Draft #2 minutes: Page 1, Introductions; corrected name spelling for Donna Heran.

A motion was made and seconded (Nakamura/Grossberg) to approve the minutes from the May 11, 2005 EAC meeting. Corrected Minutes were approved.

IV. EAC Resolutions--Status and Updates

  • Resolution 2005-01--Training and Certification of Landfill Managers and Inspectors. Is scheduled for open discussion at the Permitting & Compliance (P&C) meeting in September, to make recommendations for next step. The consensus is, there is a need for a broader training program, but staff is not starting from scratch!
  • Resolution 2005-03--Recommendations for Landfill Gas Monitoring and Control At Active and Closed Disposal Sites (next steps): Scheduled to convene informal workshops, and eventually bring it to the committee in the form of a formal regulations package.

V. EAC Discussion Items

A. Proposed Regulations for Permit Implementation Project Update (handout dated July 14, 2005)

Project is still in draft form, continued discussion of issues 1-6:

  • Issue 1: Significant Change and Modified Permit Process
    The “decision tree” approach is a tool used by the LEA’s, which helps them make the decision as to when there is a significant change.
  • Issue 2: Public Notices and Hearings
    Bumping up new noticing requirements of the Report of Facility Information (RFI). LEA’s should be aware that any request made for a list of applications submitted should be readily available! Further definition of an “informational meeting” is needed.
  • Issue3: Relationship of Solid Waste Facility Permit (SWFP) to Other Agency Permits
    The LEA’s and Regional Water Control Board’s (RWCB) should share applications submittals as well as with local planning departments.
  • Issue 4: Community Outreach Efforts
    If the applicant was aware of any notices or hearings held, they should include a list.
  • Issue 5: Five Year Permit Review Noticing
    No changes.
  • Issue 6: Surprise and Random Inspections
    No changes.

B. Partnership Workgroups for CEQA and Gaining Compliance

Two working issues under CEQA:

  1. The final workgroup document is still under review. Once it is completed, the next phase (phase II) could be brought forward by CCDEH or by an EAC resolution.
  2. Thresholds. Study of information by new student to determine if thresholds are significant or consistent.

Additional CEQA information has been approved and is available on the web! Check out the permit toolbox; search Toolbox Links under CEQA Tools.

Gaining Compliance (see Enforcement Program Model):

  • Tracking complaints
  • Compliance
  • Referrals

C. New Permit Application (Questions and Issues from Round Tables)

Mark De Bie will finalize the list of Q & A by the end of July.

Incomplete submittals (those missing information) are being returned to the LEA’s for amendment or re-submittal.

Discussion (David Altman) of conflicting instructions received, about the same issue, from P and I and Closure Sections regarding use or not of the application when amending joint technical document (JTD) sections addressing closure issues. It was suggested that better communication between the sections might prevent LEA’s being given conflicting guidance.

Discussion (Greg Pirie) on returned applications by the CIWMB that are deemed incomplete. How does it effect the time frames? Answer, the application is incomplete, and therefore must be completed before the clock can start. I think the timeframes stay on track, but the returned application cannot be deemed incomplete by waste board staff, rather sent to the LEA/operator to modify. If timeframes were affected, it would have to come from the LEA or Operator.

Discussion (Greg Pirie) on "peak daily tonnage numbers” on application and the “other” section, on whether it must include recycling tons. All materials not considered wastes are excluded from the tonnage (for example: source separated cans and bottles). There was some confusion on what was in or out.

D. LEA Inspection Role for Tire Storage Piles and Tire Manifest Review at Permitted Solid Waste Landfills (Mark De Bie)

Role of LEA’s vs. Board Staff discussion:

Tire Enforcement staff have been instructed to contact the LEA’s prior to going on-site.

Tire piles at a landfill that are covered under the permit conditions, should be inspected by the LEA.

Staff will communicate through email to LEA’s to confirm relationship and protocols when tire enforcement calls.

LEA’s are not expected to check tire manifests!

E. Radiation Alarms at Scales (Matt Fore)

South Central Roundtable initiated questions about radiation alarms at scales. Who does what? When? And How? What equipment is needed? They will host a radiation expert at their next roundtable to discuss solutions, and all are invited.

VI. CIWMB Topics, Updates and Discussion

A. Regulations/Legislation (Bob Holmes reporting)

Regulations (4 packages):

  1.  Research Development and Demolition (RDD). Staff is working on final rulemaking file package for early Sept./Oct.
  2. Final Rulemaking File for Long Term Gas Regulations. Possibly in November.
  3. Permit Implementation Package (Package A- 1497). Staff is planning on holding additional workshops on August 22 in Sacramento plus two telephone conference locations (Long Beach and San Diego).
  4. Conversion Technology Regulations. Currently looking at three possible options; leave it as it is, tear it completely down, or wait until the legislature works the issues out.

Legislation: (Most are two year bills, so they will carry over to next year.)

  1. AB 1065. Grease Haulers. Registration of haulers with Food & Agriculture Dept.
  2. AB 1133, Prohibition of Land Application of Grease. Better tracking and manifesting of wastes, if enacted, would shutdown existing sites!
  3. SB926, Bio-Solids specific to Kern County. May go to local ballot initiative.
  4. PR410, Air Quality Management District (AQMD). See item H.

B. CalEPA Working Groups

Model the regulatory framework for an ideal enforcement program. What’s driving this is the need for more enforcement by agencies.

Involvement by EAC with working group would be beneficial. It is important to raise the issue, gather inputs, and help direct the planning stages. EAC should designate an EAC member to interact with committee/work groups.

C. Update on Comprehensive Compost Odor Response Project (Reported by Brenda Smyth)

Alternatives available:

  • Odor neutralization
  • Misting
  • Pseudo bio-filters (thin layers of compost over the top)
  • Blending (aka: dilution)

Green Wastes. Results on Terpene studies:

  • Odor neutralization, good for short term only
  • Pseudo bio-filters, good results

Odor Response Kits. pros and cons:

  • Samples are well below maximum threshold limit levels
  • Very faint concentrations in sample vials
  • Samples wear out over time and use
  • Samples are masked by stronger odors

Training. Would we prefer a one-time training event with the kit, or individual kit to each LEA requesting them?

D. Water Board Coordination (Presented by Bobbie Garcia and Joe Mello) (Handout: Coordination with Water Board)

  • Tabulates level of coordination from none to some.
  • Exchange databases, GeoTracker for monitoring reports.
  • Initiate combining training, combining workshops, and opening the conferences to other agencies.
  • Enhance interaction with the regional boards. LEA’s should take the lead and initiate invitations, and if they fail to respond, invite Joe Mello to spark responses.

Concern was raised (David Altman) regarding the proposal to provide LEA’s with a copy of the Regional Water Quality Control Board'S (RWQCB) inspection report so that LEA’s could watch for items during routine inspections. LEA’s now watch for major RWQCB issues and will bring a problem to the Regional Boards attention. But ask LEA’s to watch for all items seems to go against AB1220 which separated the roles of the CIWMB/LEA and RWQCB.

E. Odor Authority Over Compostable Materials at Transfer Stations

Additional guidance is needed on odor complaints versus referrals to Air Quailty Management District (AQMD) at Transfer Stations and Composting Facilities.

Every district is different and will respond in a different manner.

F. Department of Health Services Letter on Possible Health Effects Regarding Bio-solids Composting Facilities

Department of Health Services (DHS) distributed letter (from a concerned citizen in Adelanto) in response to complaints concerning odors and “potential health impacts on biosolid land use application.” They reviewed the data and concluded there could be potential concerns and health risks to exposures. They cautioned, “Precautionary measures at the local level would be prudent.”


  • There should be a response to the letter
  • Primary concerns to the letter and what reactions it will have
  • Repercussions to DHS on involvement
  • Federal funding of studies on health impacts
  • Continue coordination with CIWMB

G. Fire Coordination Workshops

Workshops will provide coordination between the LEA’s and local Fire Authority on what are the functions and procedures at solid waste emergency incidents. This includes mulch, chip and grind, shredder fluff and municipal solid waste. It does not include tires! Workshops in November scheduled for the South Coast or Orange County, Fresno and Yuba areas.

Dennis Corcoran is still collecting case study information if you have any to give.

H. PR410 (South Coast AQMD proposed rule on odors at material recovery facilities and transfer stations)

Working group is meeting on the magnitude of the problem. Proposed public hearing on rule is tentatively scheduled for September or October. It once again raises the question of odor authority. (Representatives: Patti Henshaw, Steve Moise, and Jacquie Adams on teleconference)

Although discussion was focus on the South Coast AQMD situation, it raised concern (David Altman) that the Board may want odor enforcement at all solid waste facilities to come back to the CIWMB instead of being handled by Air Districts. A request was made that, if being considered, all counties be surveyed to see what their feelings are regarding odor enforcement jurisdiction before a statewide decision is made.

VII. Public Comments

Public comments and discussion were received and addressed during item agendas.

VIII. Meeting Adjourned at 2:50 p.m.

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Last updated: October 14, 2009
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